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Atheist VS Christian: Who'll Say Hitler On School Prayer?



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School Prayer Talk, Atheist Vs. Christian: School prayer talk shifts to Hitler comparison. Reductio ad Hitlerum: This logical fallacy is used frequently in the activity of Policy Debate as a way to attempt to briefly package philosophical objections to government types or frameworks for making decisions.


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It's not a push for ... ( 1 week ago by westfalla)
It's not a push for diversity on all matters, only the ones that have significant backing. Also, God does not fit into the catagory because the government is supposed to reamin secular. As far as sex ed is concerned, it is improperly taught in most American schools due to a religios push for abstinance only education. The diversity there is definitely not taught. I do agree that it would fruitful to have a class discussing religeons and atheism, however I don't think that it should be mandatory.
The problem is that ... ( 1 week ago by echo29x)
The problem is that religions are by nature divisive. It is perfectly acceptable (and I would argue, only fair) to allow students to practice their own personal religions in school - personal prayers, etc. However, if time is set aside for this, then this divides people - what do atheists do during time allocated for religion? Religion is taught in history (as the history of religion) but should not be taught in science as it is not scientific.
The problem with ... ( 1 week ago by echo29x)
The problem with teaching theology is that you would have to teach all religions, and that would take up an enourmous amount of time.
I would certainly ... ( 1 week ago by strongvine)
I would certainly disagree with your last point.
I am not saying reason and logic are bad but if we are forever learning and not coming to the knowledge of ANY truth, then it is pointless and we just go around in circles. I love the hard questions as well as the mysterious ones, but to delve in deeply and aimlessly would only cause one to float around in one's mind.
learning leads to ... ( 1 week ago by stinkittodaman)
learning leads to the truth. religion stifles reason and poisons logic, it does nothing but divide us, it is utterly useless.
I could not have ... ( 1 week ago by strongvine)
I could not have put it better than that.
It is a good thing that Christianity is about a personal relationship with God. Now only if those religious nuts would get that through their thick skull, huh?
First and foremost ... ( 1 week ago by mrhoffame)
First and foremost thanks for your kind reply. I agree with about 1/2 of what you stated and I think ultimately we are kind of on the same page. The part that threw me was was you said "only the ones that have significant backing". That's part of the problem. That is way to subjective a way to determine what should be pushed for in diversity because through most of the liberal elements, that dominate education, they only tend to think THEIR concerns are "Those with Significant Backing".
By "those with ... ( 1 week ago by westfalla)
By "those with significant backing" I meanthat which is agreed upon by most of the experts. Things like the holocaust would get taught, despite the fact that some experts don't think it happened. Nothing subjective about it.
A human cockfight.. ... ( 1 week ago by Maxipad44142)
A human cockfight... I'll place my bets on the Atheist if and when it gets physical :)
Thing is about ... ( 1 week ago by Maxipad44142)
Thing is about these religious extremest is they think like sicko serial killers do. In that I mean they both think that what they are doing is righteous and just. Youll never get a true christian to open thier mind and therefor are just best left alone. Respect the fact that they choose to live blindly and have peace of mind that YOU do not. The only problem here is that the Christians will never be content with that. They and thier missionaries seek to spread faith like a virus in the world
hitler, dumb ass ( 1 week ago by Chloechloe1967)
hitler, dumb ass
when your christian ... ( 1 week ago by cowofwhat334)
when your christian, you let others choose, you dont argue to make fucking dumbass point...this guys a joke
Ha ha ha. The USA ... ( 1 week ago by dprague)
Ha ha ha. The USA has allowed itself to be taken over by the American Taliban. They will accept nothing less than being able to preach and pray when they wish no matter the expense of others.
Sorry, but keep your religion private. Americans should be happy they are allowed to have their religions and it should not be allowed to be part of any public setting.
This religous man has the right to send his children to a religous school if he does not like the public schools.
What a douchebag, ... ( 6 days ago by dutchbright)
What a douchebag, this Christian. This man 'forgot' that the supporters of Hitler were mainly catholics. Besides, hating jews has it's origin in the bible... 'the jews killed Jesus'. For athiests it doesn't matter what religion you are supporting.
yes, yes and yes! ... ( 6 days ago by sausuge)
yes, yes and yes! why does noone else in America have your logic and intelligence?? we need more people like you over here to straighten this place up. :)
Hmm so along the ... ( 6 days ago by quattro610)
Hmm so along the lines of praying at school and relegious freedom i am sure this zealot wouldn't mind me praying to the norse god thor or getting a few friends in class to chant hari crisna for 20 mins or so....maybe a few might be pagan and have a small motif of stonehenge (in England)where thay can perfom thier rituals to the gods...and lets not forget the greek and roman god worshippers huh? and egyptian gods. then of course the 5 times a day prayers for muslims.
KEEP RELIGION TO THY SELF
As long as you keep ... ( 6 days ago by tthomaselli2)
As long as you keep the 'Moment-Of-Silence' out of my plans, work, etc., I'm fine.
(**I'm Catholic & proud of it, but, I dis-agree with my home-state of Illinois making the 'The Illinois Moment-Of-Silence Law' mandatory.**.).
I pray whenever I personally feel like it.
Holy crap, that's ... ( 5 days ago by 12eebok)
Holy crap, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard on YouTube!
When someone brings ... ( 3 days ago by KristofskiKabuki)
When someone brings Hitler into it you know they've lost the argumet
The fundamentalist ... ( 3 days ago by Richy15251)
The fundamentalist lost, he was the first to mention Hitler, therefore, by Godwin's law he lost.
That is a lie. They ... ( 3 days ago by sandroeleven)
That is a lie. They may have been forced to support but didnt. Hilter was an atheist and Nazism came out of the thule society. a cult.
Bill you are so ... ( 23 hours ago by soccer6guy2004)
Bill you are so blind when you argue. You hit and your punch at whatever point and throw randomly and very informally making yourself look like an idiot. You cannot pray at school, that imposes on others freedom of religion. Because if you set aside time for praying it influences others around you that don't have the same belief as you whether it is realized or not. Absolute control has always been a religious thing, i.e. crusades.
LOL, Geese. The ... ( 12 hours ago by nigball)
LOL, Geese. The rest of the world only sees the radical retards of the USA. It really is a shame.
Reason and logic is ... ( 4 hours ago by jarjarbinks77)
Reason and logic is the only way to any sort of truth. God is the pointless direction, he is not an answer to any question. To delve into the idea of god, would be the most wasteful activity, even worse then floating around in your own mind, its floating around in a pool of nothing. Try asking questions if you want to find truth. You wont find any truth in god if your really seeking truth, and not what you want to hear. Those preaching of god will tell you whatever you want to hear.



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