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Dave Allen - Giving up smoking



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Particularly heartfelt routine from 1984 - well, we know it was based on personal experience! Around this time he seemed to be developing the observational side of his act and leaving behind the more traditional jokes.


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I`m sure you are ... ( 1 month ago by femaleanimal)
I`m sure you are right. Actually, he was in a documentary about smoking at the end of the
90`s, and he said that he hadn`t thought about the dangers when he was smoking on tv and he "didn`t mean anything by it". He certainly made up for it by his zealous anti-smoking when he was older. Sadly, I saw someone comment that that put them off him a bit.
I think the tobacco ... ( 1 month ago by freshfreenlovinit)
I think the tobacco companies love the term "zealous anti-smokers" because it creates a battle between the fresh air breathers and the smokers and the tobacco companies stay low, whereas I believe smokers hate the tobacco companies as much as the fresh air breathers if not more for being hoodwinked into the terrible trap of cigarete addiction. Sure they buy their product displayed everywhere in shops (still allowed!) but do they really want to? I don't think so.
Again, you are ... ( 1 month ago by femaleanimal)
Again, you are right - although he pretty much described himself that way.There is no doubt he became one of Those People (and he had health problems, so he really couldn`t have people smoking around him). The main reason he gave for stopping smoking was that he was "paying people to kill me", so there is no doubt that he hated tobacco companies while he was till a smoker.
To me Those People ... ( 1 month ago by freshfreenlovinit)
To me Those People are those who are intentionally involved in the propagation of cigarette addiction. But I guess we all have our definition of who Those People are. I am sure he hated tobacco companies while a smoker and would have continued to do so when he finally and wonderfully escaped the cigarette addiction trap.
Well, those are ... ( 1 month ago by femaleanimal)
Well, those are different people! By Those People, in this context, I meant converts.
I am actually pretty sure hisassociation with smoking was extremely vexing to him in later years and could even have had something to do with his reluctance to release his shows on video/dvd.
Interesting discussion - thanks!
One would hope that ... ( 1 month ago by freshfreenlovinit)
One would hope that they are different people although there are those who quit smoking but are still are involved with its promotion. However, I think the stats say that there is a higher proportion of smokers in the tobacco companies than the general population. They're promoting a product that's killing them as well!
I'd like to know ... ( 1 month ago by shuhelali)
I'd like to know more
Is that right? I`m ... ( 1 month ago by femaleanimal)
Is that right? I`m sure I heard that, in the 1950`s (when smoking was pretty much the norm amongst adults..or was it?), there was an unexpectantly high number of non-smokers in the tobacco industry. These days, of course, they usually excuse it with the "personal choice" line.
As for Dave Allen,it`s just a shame that he is (still) associated with smoking as it detracts from what a brilliant man he was.
If only it were a ... ( 1 month ago by freshfreenlovinit)
If only it were a personal choice instead of a terrible, devastating addiction. I was just speaking to someone the other day who said "Why did I ever take it up?" and I said "Well you made the assumption that loads of other people were doing so presumably there must be some benefit in doing it." It's only when you're addicted you realise there isn't. I have heard that the tobacco firm offices are thick with the poisonous fumes of tobacco so it seems many of them get caught in their own web.
Well, not in the UK ... ( 1 month ago by femaleanimal)
Well, not in the UK, as that would be illegal now - even at tobacco companies! Alot of smokers regard this as a violation of their human rights, which is rather ironic. Certainly "personal choice" is an excuse or justification that alot of smokers put across. And they are not interested in the personal choice of non-smokers - or their human rights.
I'm pretty sure ... ( 1 month ago by freshfreenlovinit)
I'm pretty sure that their real "personal choice" would be to become the fresh air breather they once were - but oops, they got addicted. Society as a whole has to solve this problem because now it's our problem. How do we stop people selling a product which generates so much money?
How do we stop ... ( 4 weeks ago by JazzMad1)
How do we stop people selling a product which generates so much money?
You can't and besides, how about alcohol?
How many ppl get killed by drunk drivers? Or attacked in the streets as we read today, by some drunk. Why isn't there the social damning in the same way as there exists for smokers. And no, I am not a smoker. Was once, quit long ago. But the evil companies didn't get me to start. It was at the time, all around and accepted. But there isn't the same sort of what I'd call persecution
of smokers. Good ... ( 4 weeks ago by JazzMad1)
of smokers. Good grief, ppl saying other ppl shouldn't even be allowed to smoke in open spaces outdoors? But forgetting all that, you're right about generating money and don't forget the taxes. The booze industry is not as easy a target as was the tobacco companies. It was tried once, remember?If tobacco was banned there'd be huge black market profits as there was during prohibition. And possibly with the same sort of violence. many non-smokers have made a religion out of their cause tho.
It seems to me that ... ( 4 weeks ago by freshfreenlovinit)
It seems to me that you think having a cause of trying to get rid of cigarettes is a bad idea. I think it's a good idea and I will stick with my cause. Of course I'm also not a fan of drunken people wandering the streets or driving cars but I believe that if cigarettes went, alcoholism would also reduce.
No. Not a bad idea ... ( 4 weeks ago by JazzMad1)
No. Not a bad idea at all. But I have a problem with making it a religion or making criminals out of smokers. And btw, lots of ppl who have never been smokers and so don't know the addiction, also do not understand the the pleasure a cigarette can offer in stressed situations. I would also add that I have never known a smoker who had to rob anyone to support the habit. But it is an addiction and not a good one I agree. I was once a smoker sorry to say, but never a drinker I'm glad to say.
It detracts from ... ( 2 weeks ago by sowen222)
It detracts from him? You are a f*cking no-brain.
Ha! Well, I said ... ( 2 weeks ago by femaleanimal)
Ha! Well, I said that and I posted the video! Let me put it another way - it`s a shame that it is one of the first things people think of when they think of him rather than his brilliance as a comic. He clearly went to great lengths in later years to disassociate himself from smoking.
Dave Allen is so ... ( 2 weeks ago by eileengoth)
Dave Allen is so cool
I've got most of ... ( 1 week ago by abbafan50986)
I've got most of this episode on VHS, including all of this clip.
Good luck with that ... ( 1 week ago by ChloeDust)
Good luck with that cause... ...
Is that the ... ( 1 week ago by femaleanimal)
Is that the official "Best of" release?
No, it was taped ... ( 1 week ago by abbafan50986)
No, it was taped off the TV back in 1984.
that quality that ... ( 4 days ago by DjGizzo)
that quality that is ricky gervace should have a look at this and them peep show twats see what funny is
what kind of chair ... ( 3 days ago by ortzinator)
what kind of chair is that? his drink is about to fall :/



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