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"PHAROAH'S DANCE" (Joe Zawinul)



Uploaded by: Bobbelden
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Recorded live at MERKIN HALL, NYC 12/9/06
TIM HAGANS, BOB BELDEN, SCOTT KINSEY, MATT GARRISON, GUY LICATA, DJ LOGIC
Video by Fabian Ortiz


Tags for this video: Davis DJ Drum & Bass Fusion Garrison Hagans Jazz Kinsey Logic Matt Miles Scott Tim

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I'm glad you can ... ( 9 months ago by Bobbelden)
I'm glad you can tell the difference between great and version. up until now I thought we just did a gig.....
Sorry, the context ... ( 9 months ago by digimaton)
Sorry, the context of the statement was in relation to comment1. Yep, you did a gig, so you are here? I just wonder about attempts to recontextualize classic work. It seems a little cheap to just throw in a turntablist and some generic DnB grooves. Why try to create a contemporary context for what is essentially timeless music, thats what's beautiful about Bitches Brew, it exist outside of time and space whereas to me this version just seems contrived in it's efforts to sound
now.
the gig was part of ... ( 9 months ago by Bobbelden)
the gig was part of a serie to 'cover' classic jazz albums. Since I produced over 100 MILES DAVIS CD's and Box sets, including the "Complete Bitches Brew" I felt that maybe I could have some fun playing the music that I had studied for many years. And DJ Logic has been working with me for years, including the last Weather Report Box Set. WE ARE JUST HAVING FUN AND NOT TRYING TO MAKE A POINT...very AMERICAN!!!!!
did you? cool, I ... ( 9 months ago by digimaton)
did you? cool, I really had no idea, I'm just an innocent bystander, don't misunderstand me, I know you guys were just having fun, that's cool, unfortunately I idolise Miles, so I'm a little precious about his legacy, I'm sure you can appreciate this, Bitches Brew is a special record, I don't view it as I might a jazz standard, I just never associated the word 'fun' with this aesthetic, particularly in the context of the socio-political reality of the time. No offence intended.
wooooo tim! ( 9 months ago by Santi2c)
wooooo tim!
you must be a ... ( 9 months ago by Bobbelden)
you must be a college student digimaton....you think like one....very severe in how you want to limit others when, if you had something to show in real terms, you would show it. "a little cheap" is very subjective, in such a way that one wonders just what YOU would do....
dude, don't worry, ... ( 9 months ago by digimaton)
dude, don't worry, I'm doing it, just not in your sphere, I've seen this type of gig done more amorously, that's all. Problem with contemporary society and all the post-modern BS that comes with it is people wont take critique any more, it's considered anathema, and somehow anti-art, like they are somehow above it, I think that's BS, when we should do what we do to learn - and maybe improve what we do - as artists.
I love what you and ... ( 9 months ago by Zappatero)
I love what you and Tim did with Bitches Brew. The truth is that the jazz-rock fusion era took the lite-jazz fork in the road many years ago and it's been only recently that many have looked at the essence of that music (as I heard it, anyway) and expanded on it within as true jazz musicians would.
Its all about ... ( 7 months ago by cometogetherforever)
Its all about experimentation. You need to experiment to find new music and you also need a leader who is open minded and critical. There aren't enough musicians in this group to support the soloists.
this is appauling. ... ( 6 months ago by RIDDIMWORKS)
this is appauling. Pathetic that you would plunder Miles davis's music like this. A 'cover' of improvised music is ridiculous. Come up with your own ideas. The turntables are completely out of place. LEAVE IT ALONE
Thanks for the ... ( 6 months ago by Bobbelden)
Thanks for the comment Mr. Bin Laden.
And,Pharoah's Dance ... ( 6 months ago by Bobbelden)
And,Pharoah's Dance is a composition with improvisation. I worked with Zawinul for 17 years. I have the lead sheet on Pharoah's Dance. Its a composition. Not improvisation. In fact, all of the music on Bitches Brew is composed but Teo and Miles edited out much of the melodic structure as the musicians are not the best sight readers. Pharoahs Dance is very complicated. Please be less autocratic in your demands of other musicians. One day you will understand if you decide to enter the real world
who the guy is ... ( 5 months ago by SOLARIOUM)
who the guy is bobbelden?it seems to hnow so much about music
No "demand", just ... ( 5 months ago by RIDDIMWORKS)
No "demand", just advice. But the improv is where the MAGIC is on those tunes, Creating raw sonic energy from the combined souls present at the recording, and Miles appears to 'Capture their soul'. THAT'S what makes that record. When the band is playing by the seat of their pants, creating out of thin air, we glimpse their SOUL/SPIRIT/ESSENCE. Was it edited by Miles because "the musicians are not the best sight readers"? Or was it edited that way Because that was what Miles wanted on his album?
FROM AN INTERVIEW ... ( 5 months ago by RIDDIMWORKS)
FROM AN INTERVIEW WITH DAVE HOLLAND (Bassist on Bitches Brew)
What do you make of Panthalassa, Bill Laswell's interpretation of Miles' electric music that you were originally involved in?
"On one hand, I think if it wasn't the way Miles wanted, we should leave it alone. On the other, in terms of creativity, I think one has to be open to these possibilities. I don't want to sound like a purist, but it's a little like coloring the black and white pictures. It's not the way the director saw it
Dave Holland on ' ... ( 5 months ago by RIDDIMWORKS)
Dave Holland on 'panthalassa' Continued....
"It's not the way the director saw it at the time. Had he shot it in color, would he have done it that way? Maybe he wouldn't. Had Miles had the technology that Bill Laswell is using, would he have done it like that? Does Bill Laswell have the right to do it? I can't answer these questions. I just know that if I listen to the thing, I would rather hear it come direct from the creator, which in this case is Miles.
Dave Holland on ' ... ( 5 months ago by RIDDIMWORKS)
Dave Holland on 'panthalassa' Continued....
I just know that if I listen to the thing, I would rather hear it come direct from the creator, which in this case is Miles. I much prefer the black and white versions to the color versions. You can make your statement at the cash register. You can either buy it or not. I'm going to buy the Miles Davis version. The one he heard. The one he approved.
"Sometimes A Cigar ... ( 5 months ago by Bobbelden)
"Sometimes A Cigar Is Just A Cigar"
On the one hand, ... ( 4 months ago by Bitterblogger)
On the one hand, the frequency of Bob's defensive posts are annoying; on the other, his apparent reverence for this challenging music comes through (well, other than that
Victor somehow felt that your accompaniment for several minutes in closeup was particularly worthy), and in that it may help to popularize an album that is perhaps in danger of not being remembered after boomerdom, I support this post. For Miles' sake.
"frequency of Bob's ... ( 4 months ago by Bobbelden)
"frequency of Bob's defensive posts are annoying"....i guess so...but we all must go beyond this...
The original ... ( 4 months ago by iwishiwasdizzy)
The original recording of Pharoah's Dance was recorded with a Fender Rhodes piano, not exactly and instrument that stands the tests of time. Do you think Beethoven had a Rhodes in mind when writing Fur Elise? Probably not.
...In response to ... ( 4 months ago by iwishiwasdizzy)
...In response to digimaton's comment a while back.
I think you'll find ... ( 4 months ago by digimaton)
I think you'll find, if you do your homework, that the Rhodes if considered a legendary electronic instrument. It is capable of producing many unique timbres (especially with the add-on effect units).In recent times it has been rediscovered by a younger generation, and has also resurrected by a number of the it's original exponents, and not without good reason. Beethoven?? who cares what he had in mind, the comparison is meaningless in this context.
wow that comment ... ( 2 days ago by joncoltrain)
wow that comment about the fender rhodes standing the test of time?,, who else read this one? whoever wrote it is a close minded idiot afraid of change what r u saying no music played on modern instruments is valid? u r ignorant and probably really proud of your technicial skills but u have no creativity or originality which is something much more precious



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