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You think thats bad ... ( 3 months ago by MachShot1337)
You think thats bad? Fox, before the rulling, was trying to promote the idea that they have more rights than regular prisoners. Which makes the location of the prison, in an area not bound by the constitution, make PERFECT sence.
i guess he hates ... ( 3 months ago by tehflo)
i guess he hates america
Knox, James Yee ... ( 3 months ago by laleeloolelo)
Knox, James Yee wasn't caught with a terrorist cell and yet he was sent to Gitmo anyway.
You remember JAMES YEE don't you?
He's the MUSLIM US SOLDIER wrongly sent to Gitmo.
"Torture promotes ... ( 3 months ago by laleeloolelo)
"Torture promotes democracy because we get info. about terrorist's camps."
Do you have any example of ANY TERRORIST'S CAMPS that were exposed from this "interrogations"?
"24" isn't documentary you know.
I can't stand this ... ( 3 months ago by bonzelite)
I can't stand this guy's on-screen persona. Very annoying.
Habeas Corpus does ... ( 3 months ago by Zarlok2)
Habeas Corpus does not extend to foreign nationals, dear Hun. The consitutation is a pacvt between the governmental bodies of the united states and its people. Defacto, not foreign nationals. According to this ruling, foreign nationals actually have more rights than americans in the USA. Ya, great ruling you fucking commie.
Well it was not ... ( 3 months ago by RationalLiberty)
Well it was not JUST foreign nationals we were picking up-Americans as well.
I do not know international law, but it would be astounding if habeus corpus was not protected under international law.
Practically we cannot go around abducting and detaining people from all nations just because they are "foreign nationals". If extended, we can just round up countless people, tens of thousands, and not charge them because they are "foreign nationals".
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Also habeus corpus means that you cannot be detained indefinitely. That means you charge them with something to justify incarceration. It would be much much better if we gave them the right of habeus corpus than if we took it away-even if it could be justified under a "foreign national" status.
Saving "foreign nationals" right to habeus corpus is saving OUR right to habeus corpus.
We do not obey habeus corpus because its not just a democratic thing, we obey it because it is HUMANE.
You're right Zarlok ... ( 3 months ago by laleeloolelo)
You're right Zarlok, it is great.
At least James Yee (you remember him?) ordeal isn't for nothing if it help saves other innocents who are wrongfully sent to Gitmo, regardless whether they're Americans or not.
It would backfire. ... ( 3 months ago by eirefrance)
It would backfire. Democrats have been losing the partisan battle for 20 years. The reason Obama is so popular is that he tries to rise above this divide. I agree about their douchebaggery, but we have to 'respect' their position.
Why must we " ... ( 3 months ago by swaggajee)
Why must we "respect" their position? NOT ANYMORE!!! That's exactly how America was put on the fast track to Fascismland!!!
When the neo-cons start talking their noise and fear-mongoring we need to expose it for the Hitler-speak that it is. Fuck being respectful!! I say turn them into Lil Hitlers and try to ruin them for the stupid shit they say...they certainly aren't respectful of my beliefs so fuck them if they get their feelings hurt.
Forcing them out of ... ( 3 months ago by eirefrance)
Forcing them out of office because you disagree with their political positions IS fascism. Its playing right into their hands. The percentage of the country that think they agree with those judges will react by saying we are forcing our politics on them (which will be mostly right). Use your free speech, call them out, and if we can convince our citizens, maybe it will happen.
How do they have ... ( 3 months ago by eirefrance)
How do they have more rights? Do they have more habeas corpus?
Where in the ... ( 3 months ago by eirefrance)
Where in the Constitution does it say the Government has the right to own and operate land that can be considered outside the jurisdiction of the Constitution?
You are so annoying. ( 3 months ago by dizzylizzyd514)
You are so annoying.
We make deals with ... ( 3 months ago by KnoxSUX)
We make deals with forein Government. It is still property of the US.
And what about ... ( 3 months ago by eirefrance)
And what about being US property puts it outside of the jurisdiction of the Constitution?
Habeus corpus is an ... ( 3 months ago by bompop01)
Habeus corpus is an inaliable right. That means that wherever you live in the world, America recognizes your right by birth to a fair and speedy trial. Its something we fight for as Americans. I don't like this Gitmo situation any more than anyone else, but in keeping with the spirit of the constitution, the detainees should be seeing a judge now. It would be nice if America could set a good example again, to have courage of our convictions, and live up to what we aspouse.
Its private prop. ... ( 3 months ago by KnoxSUX)
Its private prop. Only US Armed Forces are allowed in. Guantanimo is a prison, not a tourist attraction.
My house is private ... ( 3 months ago by eirefrance)
My house is private property. I can't hold someone as a prisoner in my house. Are you suggesting that the Constitution is only in effect on publicly owned land?
Don't you all ... ( 3 months ago by ratje67)
Don't you all discuss about private property, jurisdiction and constitution.
Fair and swift justice is a human right and that's it.
It is just not possible to create some smart legal construction to enable denial of human rights.
Or you chose as a society not to respect human rights for suspects anymore.
And just say it like that.
Lol. Theres alot of ... ( 3 months ago by zenqueen78)
Lol. Theres alot of You Tubers I wanna say this to.
Did I say that? ( 3 months ago by KnoxSUX)
Did I say that?
What the heck are ... ( 1 month ago by JCJC2009)
What the heck are you talking about?
Do you have any texual supports?
What you try to prove to the audeinces.



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